Bad Behavior is Bad Behavior…no Matter What Side

Posted: August 13, 2009 in Politics
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In an effort to be “fair & balanced” as well as an equal opportunity political criticizer…I give you bad behavior from the other side.

I would be livid if I were the questioner.  GET OFF YOUR PHONE!!

(the comments on video are that of the creator and poster of video…not Sam I Am)

My favorite quote on this health care topic from the other side:

(Rep. Nathan Deal)

  1. upwiththat says:

    Two good examples of bad behavior. They are both equally WRONG!

  2. Jim Ruth says:

    I have to agree. The push to make a decision on a bill almost no congressman or woman had or to this day has read, is unwise at best. I’m not sure what the hurry is, but generally the faster folks want something passed is a sign that they don’t want anyone to know what is in it. The more the discussion, the better the understanding and less chance for disinformation. Remember, truth is good.

  3. upwiththat says:

    If you are agreeing with me, I didn’t make my point well. I think the guy comparing the healthcare refor process to the dog selection process is WRONG. If time were truly the issue, that legislators were working night and day but just didn’t have enough time, fine, extend the time. But that’s not the case, it is simply an excuse and diversion, a cute sound-bite. This reform has been needed and talked about for years, anyone caught by surprise should be ashamed of themselves.

  4. Jim Ruth says:

    Let me make a clarification on my first comment. Though I agree with the premise that we should not move so fast with reform, the analogy of the amount of time it took in the choosing a pet dog for the first family in comparison to the amount of time to debate healthcare reform, though clever, wasn’t a very respectful one. Reform, though which type and how it should be instituted, is yet to be determined, it is certainly needed. Everyone needs to take a breath.

  5. Jim Ruth says:

    Sorry upwiththat, I didn’t mean to imply I agreed with your assessment. Someone had to start the dialogue, which has been done. And that is a good thing. However, just because one brings a bill to the table, it doesn’t mean it is a good bill. I applaude the effort, but let’s not confuse effort with excellence.

  6. upwiththat says:

    Thanks, Jim, for both clarifications. I agree that a calm discussion is the goal and I would support slowing down if it meant effort and excellence, I just don’t want the effort abandoned as in the pasts.

  7. Jim Ruth says:

    I hope now that the issue of healthcare or health insurance or what ever they are calling it now, has been brought to light, congress can finally come up with a plan that we all can live with. Soon, I’m sure all of the posturing will be put to rest and level heads will prevail. Until then we have a responsibility as citizens to be a source of positive reinforcement to the process that is truely American. Though sometimes it drives us crazy, it is better than any alternitive.

  8. Don Ayres says:

    What we need is a catastrophic health care bill. Something to help offset the huge costs someone faces for major surgery or cancer treatment. Unless your a multi-millionaire you can’t afford these costs. Or even someone at the income level I am at having to come up with the base from a surgery that I have to pay before the insurance company will pay their part. I believe about 70% of the bankruptcies filed last year were due to medical bills people could not afford to pay. Do something to take care of this. That I wouldn’t mind seeing my taxes go to. But no one is going to tell me what doctor or hospital I can or can’t go to, or what I can or can’t get treatment for. That is exactly what the current bill is all about.

  9. Kneip says:

    Sorry to weigh in late, but Don, isn’t your last comment kind of how the current system is? I mean, we go to Memorial because that’s where our insurance covers. We can go to St. Joe, but we’d pay the full price, so while my insurance (in principle) does not tell me where to go, in practicality it does. Just a thought…

  10. Don Ayres says:

    True, but at the same time yes and no. How many people can honestly afford the end they need to pay before the insurance kicks in their end? If an operation costs $25,000 not many people can afford to pay the deductable. In all honesty, most can’t afford the difference for quite a bit below that either. I know there are insurance programs out there like Aflac, but how many people can afford that extra, 30-50 a month? There is still a big manufacturing sector in South Bend and most of those jobs pay what I make or below. Try all those monthly expenses and then add that monthly cost to help cover your wages if you’re out of work and other things, most people just can’t swing that added cost. This is where the government could kick in and actually be helpful.
    The problem with this ‘healthcare’ bill is that some bureaucratic nut who knows nothing about medical treatment, gets to determine not only what treament you or I get, but also, who lives and who dies. What about our parents? I don’t want some government clown telling me either one of my folks has to die, because they happen to think they have outlived their usefulness. What if Cynthia got some kind of illness that is difficult to beat, but is treatable? You want some unqualified nut telling the both of you she has no chance, because he/she is unwilling to fork out the costs? This is the kind of bill they are wanting to pass. Not something that is actually beneficial to anyone. With what I make, it’s hard to afford what would be deducted from my check for benefits, but ask yourself this. Unless it was taken out, there is a $5000 IRS penalty for anyone who does not want this so called great plan. If they want to attack you finacially for not taking their side. What does that tell you?

  11. upwiththat says:

    Why are you more comfortable with some corporate desk-jockey “nut who knows nothing about medical treatment, gets to determine not only what treament you or I get, but also, who lives and who dies.”?? Your insurance co employees are making the same decision now that you are so worried about – and for them it is a cost-benefit analysis not a healthcare decision – their salaries, promotions, bonuses, profits depend on the decision they make.

    That difficult to treat illness, the insurance companies decide whether you are covered – how is the status quo it any better?!?!?!? I see it as a lot worse. This is the question I don’t see any of the anti-healthcare reform people answering.

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